I’m going to ensure people know they are other options than voting for genocide. if harris loses to fucking trump as a result, that’s her fault not mine. learn to place blame were it properly belongs: On the person committed to a genocide. I didnt force her down this path. I didnt force you down this path. You and her choose it willingly.
Let me know when you’re willing to stop supporting a genocide and then we can talk.
yawn tired trope. there are other levers to pull for reducing essentially every other harm. its clear you dont understand how to effectively leverage your vote to reduce harm and are supportive of a genocide. congrats i guess?
Let me know when you’re no longer a willing participant in a genocide and then we can talk about harm reduction.
no, I’d ‘go after’ them. not vote, not support, actively fight against. as i am doing now.
you: ‘Excuse me dear these two murders are running for office, I have to let one of them murder our children’ jfc you poor soul.
Any other vote is a vote for trump
This is just factually incorrect. And easily demonstrated using math you should have learned in the 5th grade.
Trump: 5 votes
Harris: 5 votes
Any other vote: 5 votes
If i keep adding votes to ‘any other vote’ the ratio between trump / Harris will not change.
T: 5 H: 5 AOV: 10000
Ratio is still one see? In no way is Harris’ chances of winning impacted by a third party vote.
What you mean to say is ‘Harris having shitty policies that are abhorrent to the voting population causes her to be at risk of losing to a literal fascist.’
By trying to put the blame on other voters because you are willing to overlook genocide says more about you than it does them.
There is only one person who can fix Harris’ platform. Put the blame where it rightfully belongs, on harris.
Dont disagree ive been actively campaigning for rcv etc in my state for years. Thankfully i can do two things at the same time.
Edit: sandbox this not directed at you. Just clarifying.
Last I checked no one has suggested supporting trump instead. Seek help you’ve been seeing things that are not real.
To everyone else show up, vote with your heart. I live in a safe state, i still voted down ballot for the majority of my reps. If you’re in a similar situation please consider doing the same and contacting your reps and letting them know why. Dont let Kamala and the dnc force you into supporting a genocide its not worth it.
If you’re in a swing state do what you need to do to protect your local community in whatever way you can. Yes, including supporting harris if thats what it’ll take, despite shitty of a candidate she is1. I promise you people like myself are not upset with people supporting kamala. I have no interest in shaming you for voting.
But if you think trying to stop a genocide is unreasonable, well… You’re the problem, and i will happily call you out for your disgusting bullshit.
1 Kamala has remained uncommited to labor. (No policies for pto,sick leave, healthcare reform, workers rights.
Kamala has remained uncommited to keeping khan the best head of the FTC we’ve seen in my life. See related mentions about labor they’re coupled.
Kamala has done more to harm the muslim community than just supporting a genocide shes actively suppressed them in our own country, if she’s willing to throw one minority group under the bus shes willing to throw others.
Why when i can do it now? The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The 2nd best time is now.
If kamala loses thats her fault. Not mine. She could have demonstrated support for Palestinians she has decided to snub a minority group at literally every turn.
No one is asking kamala to commit to a course she has no control over. Whether we sell arms to Israel is squarely in the presidents hands. We have laws in the books that cover this exact situation. Kamala needs to ‘follow the law’ as she is often quoted saying.
Now i suggest you go get checked for mental health issues as you clearly think committing a genocide is perfectly acceptable and that people voting against it are the problem. No one has forced Kamala into this position but herself. No one has forced you into your insanity except yourself.
😂 imagine thinking not supporting a genocide is an unreasonable demand. Say the quiet part out loud. Phew.
Seek help child. You certainly need it.
Indeed he will, and so will harris. Biden has slow walked support for Ukraine as well.
I’m sorry Kamala has decided to be a shitty human (its hardly just gaza that has caused my vote to be casted for a 3rd party). But thats the way the cookie crumbled. I can do more to protect people on these shores via other means of direct action. Kamala changing positions on gaza is all i can do for my Palestinian brothers and sisters.
If you think changing a position on genocide is unreasonable, you are the problem. No one is saying dont protect israel, no one is saying they cant defend themselves. Neither situation applies atm. Israel is the aggressor at this point.
Have you ever noticed how everyone goes on and on about the right to defend themselves and then conveniently ignoring that as soon as the threat is neutralized self defense no longer applies?
Israel is the antagonist at this point. They dont have to keep invading new regions. They’ve managed to kill more hostages than they’ve rescued.
They keep killing journalist, doctors, nurses, etc from international organizations.
If you think telling kamala and the Democrats to stop supporting this is unreasonable: You. Are. The. Problem.
Lol no i dont. Id be going after both of them.
why not? either one would be better than harris or trump at this time. primarily due to the fact neither has the support of a major group of genocidal congress critters.
How does it feel to be an entitled supporter of genocide? How’s your sleep? Do you need someone to talk to?
However I understand the importance of this election and I understand how our system works.
your actions say otherwise. you understand what you want to avoid. but you don’t know how to actually avoid it.
Voting 3rd party does nothing but pull votes from Democrats.
does it? i’ve never seen evidence of this. I’ve seen 3rd party candidate pull enough votes that if they were applied to democrats they would have won. But there is no evidence those votes would have gone to the democrat if the third party was absent. This is a fiction you’ve made up in your head to appease your ego and to place blame on others.
What really is happening here is you’re upset that your candidate lost and you want to blame others instead of the candidate for being a horrible human. Harris can fix her genocidal chains, she won’t, but she could. And worse if she does lose then the entire basis of you voting for the lesser evil is proven ineffectual further damaging your self image because now not only did the evil you wish to prevent succeeded, but you compromised your morals and enabled a genocide.
Its a shame really the lies we tell ourselves.
I love watching you work @TheOubliette@lemmy.ml. note taking
Welcome to the brotherhood of being a human being, though I suspect you’ve been here for some time. we respect your choice to vote for harris.
When? Im not an Oracle. May take decades. May get worse before it gets better in certain areas. The USSR took a generation to collapse.
Im hoping harris move to the right enough and manages it. So we can split the dem party finally.
Wow i never knew! Thanks! 🤯
It amuses me how rational you think you are while simultaneously missing the point. The gop will collapse, and then the dems will be the right wing party that they want to be. And the fight will begin anew. Harris shift to the right is a fine demonstration of this.
I’d add shelters to the list if you can’t immediately get direct travel to family. Many provide support services as well which can help you on your next steps.