Because people are tribalistic and paint with a very wide brush. And we have a FPTP two party system. So like it or not, liberal, left, feminist, etc memes all get lumped together. It’s up to us to reign in the crazy on our own side lest we look crazy by proxy. Or replace crazy with venom, or whatever you want to call it that is making young men feel more welcome on right.

It’s like that line from the Newsroom. “You know why people hate liberals? Because you lose. If liberals are so smart how come they lose so god damned always?”

I’m on the left and I’m tired of getting my ass kicked because my own party has no strategic or tactical sense, and no unity to rally us. Just infighting and giving the right easy wins and plentiful sticks to beat us with.

No it won’t. That’s not the point though. You talk as if humans are wholly rational. All I’m pointing out is the left are masters of shooting themselves in the foot with how they message and present themselves.

You catch more flies with honey and all that.

Everything you said is true. And will not get you victory. That’s my point. Uncomfortable truths aren’t going to get votes. Hope does.

The right may be liars but their message is essentially pining for better times past.

I am pointing out the uncomfortable truth that we are losing young men to the right, and you guys just down vote instead of face the truth. Hypocrisy.

Lol, the mirror of which is, “I can’t believe people I insult didn’t support my cause!”

Like what’s the win for you guys, to get someone who would have voted with you to be demotivated enough to stay home? And if so, isn’t that just the same childish attitude?

However, young white men are skewing right. Because the only thing the left says to them is they are privileged pieces of shit that are useless rapists that are trusted less than bears. Winning strategy.

What is a tanky? Only heard that after switching to Lemmy. What’s the origin?

Edit: God damn, definition was far more literal than I imagined!

Ohhhh, right, equating gay and effeminate. That would explain it being 20 years ago. Reminds me of old highschool days. I’m getting old!

Don’t think I’ve ever heard of someone dissing anyone over this. Sitting is objectively cleaner; micro droplets.

There was a point in time where Firefox had the most market share? When was this?

I use an older model that’s kind of like this one.

https://a.co/d/eIMfMtB

Tis HEPA, but I’m sure you could get the same effect for cheaper. That said, I’ve been happy with mine for about 4 years now.

Well that seems better worded than much of reddit.

Lol, and you don’t know how logic works. You can’t even articulate what you want changed in the status quo in a consistent and sensible manner. I certainly know how things work, which is why I can point out how this entire argument about noise in public is entirely full of holes and nonsense. Life is noisy, deal with it. Or get some ear plugs. And then whine about it on the Internet.

Ah, another arbitrary distinction. I’m sure glad that laws aren’t up to your fickle sensibilities. Should we have a pre approved list of ring tones? Can we use music as ring tones?

So you would like legislation passed to outlaw street performers? If I’m a child for asking these questions, what does that make you, an angry old man yelling at kids? Maybe I’m just not as bothered by people living there lives as you are. I expect noise in public.

I mean… Even if everyone knows it’s coming, you still need to have notice when it actually happens right?

I was making fun of this entire concept. If talking in public is allowed, it implies that everyone is comfortable with a person emitting a certain amount of noise. What form that noise takes is idiotic to divvy up and bitch about.

Explain to me how if you’re annoyed by music playing, why is that any more valid than someone else being mad at talking? Or someone else for whistling? Singing? Phone ringing? Vibrating? Where are your arbitrary lines?

Nobody should even speak in public! Or breathe my air!

Good. Mail everyone a damned ballot. Postage paid preferably.

I’ve used Calibre and stripped DRM off eBooks, definitely recommend.