Summary

Chinese solar companies, which control over 80% of the global solar market, have long avoided U.S. duties by shifting production to Southeast Asia.

Over 80% of U.S. solar imports now come from nations like Malaysia and Vietnam, but new U.S. tariffs are expanding to these regions.

In response, Chinese firms are exploring manufacturing in the Middle East.

Analysts say such measures expose the challenges of reducing U.S. reliance on China’s solar supply chain.

  • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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    13 days ago

    This is a funny thing in that I actually like the idea of tariffs but using democracy, human rights, median income, and such for each country. Countries that pay to little and are non demorcratic and don’t allow for various rights would have big tarriffs and ones with all those things would have like zero. So zero for europe and canada and such but very large ones for saudi arabia and such.

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      12 days ago

      Countries that pay to little and are non demorcratic and don’t allow for various rights would have big tarriffs and ones with all those things would have like zero.

      Medium ones for the US, got it!

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        12 days ago

        honestly I think the us should have higher tariffs till we get rid of citizens united and bust up monopolies (including limiting ownership of critical things like media) and make healthcare a right and regulate pollution properly and such.

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      13 days ago

      This only gets passed on to the consumer though, it needs to be some kind of tax incentive for companies.

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        13 days ago

        If it becomes more expensive to buy products manufactured in certain countries then customers would naturally change their buying habits to other companies. The price to the customer ultimately acts as an incentive to companies.

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          13 days ago

          This only works if there is enough supply from those other companies. This also assumes that the other companies have a supply chain that isn’t affected by tariffs. Which means each step on the chain needs to produce enough to be a reasonable alternative to tariffed imports.

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            12 days ago

            True, but even if there’s only one supplier, there’s still demand-side elasticity of price, which means that price increasing causes some customers to not buy the product. Thus, a company may or may not be able to increase a price 1:1 with the tarriff.

            All this is fun economic theory, but I was specifically responding to the claim that tax incentives were better than a tarriff. They both translate into some increase in cost of the goods sold.

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      13 days ago

      In practice, authoritarian countries that you’re friendly with are treated as honorary democracies, and democracies you have a spat with become honorary dictatorships.