Summary

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich endorsed President-elect Donald Trump’s victory, stating it’s “time” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

This comes as Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu highlighted his alignment with Trump on the “Iranian threat.”

Tensions in Gaza and Lebanon have escalated following recent Israeli airstrikes, with regional leaders gathering in Riyadh to address Israeli actions.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog is set to meet President Biden, though Biden’s influence on Israel may be limited following Trump’s win.

  • papertowels@lemmy.oneEnglish
    33·
    11 days ago

    someone who thinks both party’s won’t help

    I don’t read it this way all - there was no conditional on party efficacy and it in fact was an assertion that their lives won’t change due to who was elected, which changed the overall statement to read like the working class shouldn’t vote.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      11 days ago

      So, the issue is you’re not understanding what people are saying…

      You’re thinking they said something they didn’t and you’re getting upset about nothing.

      • papertowels@lemmy.oneEnglish
        13·
        10 days ago

        Can you point out where they say “if wage earners think both parties won’t help”?

        If not, then you’re the one selectively interpreting this…

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          10 days ago

          Can you point out where they say “if wage earners think both parties won’t help”?

          To avoid confusion because it seems likely:

          If you’re a wage earner in this country, your life does not change in any significant way based on who we elect, so why skip a badly needed day’s pay to vote? There’s just no point

          A more indepth response:

          What you linked:

          Weird. A bug in the app switched up my replies.

          What I intended to say was:

          I can understand. If you’re a wage earner in this country, your life does not change in any significant way based on who we elect, so why skip a badly needed day’s pay to vote? There’s just no point.

          And when you point this out to other people, all you get in response are excuses.

          They’re explicitly saying that the people whom didn’t vote, didn’t vote because both parties are too similar and won’t help. They’re saying those people need more than “not trump” to vote D.

          I’m struggling to see where your confusion is coming from.

          If this still doesn’t make sense, can you try asking for clarification in greater detail?

          It just seems so obvious to me.

          And this isn’t a new conversation, we’ve been having it since 2016, it’s been 8 years man… Hell, really 12 because we started seeing the drop in 2012 when we realized Obama wasn’t who he said in 08

          What aren’t you getting about this?

          Like, this is the bare bones basics of modern political history in America… Go back decades and the most likely response from a non voter about why they didn’t vote is “neither party will actually help”.

          You never learned any of this stuff, like, ever?___

          • papertowels@lemmy.oneEnglish
            12·
            10 days ago

            If you’re a wage earner in this country, your life does not change in any significant way based on who we elect, so why skip a badly needed day’s pay to vote? There’s just no point.

            You’ll notice that’s different from

            If you’re a wage earner in this country and you think your life does not change in any significant way based on who we elect, so why skip a badly needed day’s pay to vote? There’s just no point.

            The former is an assertion that all wage earners lives aren’t affected by voting therefore they shouldn’t bother voting. IF you’re a wage earner THEN there’s no point in voting".

            The latter is understanding a scenario from a potential perspective of a wage earner who doesn’t see change being discouraged.

            Like you said in your own post,

            someone who thinks both party’s won’t help

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              10 days ago

              someone who thinks both party’s won’t help

              So this entire slog I’ve went thru to help you understand…

              Is because when someone says:

              Apple pie is delicious

              You take that as a statement of fact and not their opinion because they didn’t say:

              I think Apple pie is delicious.

              There is nothing I can do to help you here or with anything else you may have difficulty with in the future.

              • papertowels@lemmy.oneEnglish
                1·
                10 days ago

                EDIT: removed a block of text that took all too long to type out because I’m not going to spend more time further arguing the interpretation of someone’s comment as if it were religious script.

                Quite frankly it hardly matters. You asked for proof of folks politically engaged yet not voting, I shared what I thought constitutes proof. You believe it doesn’t qualify, but other folks reading this can draw their own conclusions.

                Thanks for keeping the conversation civil - have a good one!