It’s always so sad, yet predictable, when people that get famous become drunk with power and make poor life choices that hurt others. If put to good use, the power these people wield could do so much good.
This world needs more people like Mr. Rogers, Steve Wozniak, and Keanu Reeves. Not this shit.
I think in MrBeast’s case, he got big precisely because he was willing to hurt and manipulate others, not that he changed once he made it. He seems like a grade A PoS.
The thing I’m most surprised about is that it took so long for the cracks to show.
Unfortunately, not him either. He’s such a big fan of the bigot Graham Hancock that he’s involved in Hancock’s Netflix series.
And you don’t have to believe me about Hancock. There are indigenous Americans that are happy to tell you all about it.
The description for the Secrets of the Ancients program listed on the Chaco filming permit application said the program would explore “one of archaeology’s biggest mysteries: the peopling of the Americas”.
It went on to state: “We’ll uncover the latest findings about the earliest inhabitants of the Americas and reveal remarkable scientific knowledge that’s been handed down for generations. Where did humans settle first in the Americas, and what do we know about them?”
Hancock, who is not an archeologist, has attracted the ire of those in the profession, as well as Native groups, for pushing a theory that an advanced ice age society, responsible for modern understandings of maths, architecture and agriculture, was wiped out by floods triggered by comet strikes nearly 12,000 years ago.
Evidence of this is found at ancient sites around the world, Hancock claims, with the writer visiting such places in countries including Turkey, Mexico and Indonesia in the first season of the Netflix show, aired in 2022. During the show, which Netflix promoted with the tagline “What if everything we know about prehistoric humans is wrong?”, Hancock railed against “mainstream archaeology” for not accepting his theories.
“[Hancock] presents his theories as being superior to what the first inhabitants of the area say about their own history,” said Stewart Koyiyumptewa, tribal historic preservation officer for the Hopi Nation.
The Hopi people have lived in or near the Grand Canyon for at least 2,000 years and claim a sacred site inside the canyon as their place of emergence. They also have strong ties to Chaco Canyon.
A Grand Canyon national park staff member who is Native American also pushed back against issuing a permit to ITN.
“This is embarrassing and a discredit to our agency when we have been working hard to respect Indigenous people and right many historical wrongs,” wrote the staff member in an email to Grand Canyon park management. “This is just degrading.”
I understand your stance but compared to Mr. Beast, not the same comparison. Mr. Rogers, Steve Erwin, and Levar Burton (should always be included) I would listen to their input on helping everyone. They are smart and good.
Keanu and maybe Woody Harrison are more of good people that you don’t hear horrible stuff about that are universally famous.
No kid touching, woman abusing, racist rants, or Nazi praising episodes. Morgan Freemen and Bill Cosby use to be that way but over time it started to crack. Even Dave Grohl has fallen from the list. Of course these examples are not a 1:1.
The second group, like I said, is more good not smart. They have flaws but are universal good people. Ross was a great person but horrible judgment in some people. Look at his son’s battle for his family name.
Harrison is a all natural, holistic person. His wife owns a company that sells stuff like that. However, you never heard about him harassing people or going on a racist rant. That is my point. No one is looking to Harrison for advice. Just like I’m not looking to Keanu for advice.
I’ll give you an example. Bill Murray was considered a great guy. Would randomly show up at people’s wedding when invited, still has a answering machine, and seemed like a real life goof ball. Then the reports of his interaction with Lucy Liu came out. Then reports of him abusing people on set. His image is one of an abusive asshole on set.
If you tell me you get your political views or any advice from him, I would laugh in your face. Not bc of everything I just said but bc he doesn’t seem like a smart person. He seems like the class clown that smokes to much weed.
“[Hancock] presents his theories as being superior to what the first inhabitants of the area say about their own history,” said Stewart Koyiyumptewa, tribal historic preservation officer for the Hopi Nation.
The Hopi people have lived in or near the Grand Canyon for at least 2,000 years and claim a sacred site inside the canyon as their place of emergence. They also have strong ties to Chaco Canyon.
Obviously Hancock is a crackpot but saying that he offends other people with equally falsified theories is not exactly strong criticism…
IMO that’s basically white supremacy. The most generous possible thing you could say is that Hancock is too stupid to recognize racist bullshit when he sees it in terms of things like Quetzalcoatl being a white man (utter bullshit) but I don’t think he’s that stupid.
Here is Quetzalcoatl (and not in his usual winged serpent form) from the pre-Spanish Maya. Does he look like a white man to you or a local indigenous person? Don’t you think if Hancock didn’t want to just perpetuate racist bullshit he could have just looked that up himself, what with being a journalist and all?
But that’s just one image, right? And no color! I’m sure after the Spanish came and had them draw him…
Oh.
I thought journalists were supposed to do research.
Of course, if you’re a journalist who wishes to perpetuate racism…
I like how you continue to dodge the fact the indigenous peoples claims they come from a fucking rock is ridiculous when I have already agreed that Hancock is a con man.
Nobody knows what’s going in inside that melon except him, but it really does reek of the old mindset of colonials “discovering” lands where people had been living already for millennia, and assuming they’re too dumb to be worth considering. Or even making a spectacle of them like they’re some sort of animal.
Even if it’s not intentionally malicious, that sort of disregard has some amount of bigotry attached.
It’s always so sad, yet predictable, when people that get famous become drunk with power and make poor life choices that hurt others. If put to good use, the power these people wield could do so much good.
This world needs more people like Mr. Rogers, Steve Wozniak, and Keanu Reeves. Not this shit.
-Robert G. Ingersoll
I think in MrBeast’s case, he got big precisely because he was willing to hurt and manipulate others, not that he changed once he made it. He seems like a grade A PoS.
The thing I’m most surprised about is that it took so long for the cracks to show.
You should never judge the book by its cover, but god those thumbnails always made me very suspicious of him
It’s his eyes and smile. He looks absolutely dead inside, nothing genuine about him.
Unfortunately, not him either. He’s such a big fan of the bigot Graham Hancock that he’s involved in Hancock’s Netflix series.
And you don’t have to believe me about Hancock. There are indigenous Americans that are happy to tell you all about it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/01/netflix-ancient-apocalypse-canceled
Mate you find a problem with everything, take up whittling or something for the sake of your mental health. Nobody’s perfect, as the saying goes.
“Nobody’s perfect” is quite an interesting excuse for bigotry.
Is that how you’re also not “perfect?”
Probably, amongst a million other things.
Weird. Somehow I can be both imperfect and not a bigot. In fact, lots of people can.
Weird how that works.
Pseudo-Scientific Documentaries of that kind has made me cancel my Netflix subscription over two years ago.
It’s a shame what they sell us as facts.
Why? Ancient apocalypse is a blast to watch.
Granted you have to watch it for the entertainment, god forbid you take stuff like that seriously - but it is very fun!
Always remember: No one is immune to propaganda
Moonie’s video on that is a great watch
You either die a hero or live long enough to start making bad decisions. And Keanu is hundreds of years old.
I was a big fan but unfortunately this is all true and can be verified. Very sad
I understand your stance but compared to Mr. Beast, not the same comparison. Mr. Rogers, Steve Erwin, and Levar Burton (should always be included) I would listen to their input on helping everyone. They are smart and good.
Keanu and maybe Woody Harrison are more of good people that you don’t hear horrible stuff about that are universally famous.
No kid touching, woman abusing, racist rants, or Nazi praising episodes. Morgan Freemen and Bill Cosby use to be that way but over time it started to crack. Even Dave Grohl has fallen from the list. Of course these examples are not a 1:1.
The second group, like I said, is more good not smart. They have flaws but are universal good people. Ross was a great person but horrible judgment in some people. Look at his son’s battle for his family name.
If you’re talking about Woody Harrelson, he “doesn’t believe in germ theory” and once circulated a web post that said COVID was spread by 5G. source
Harrison is a all natural, holistic person. His wife owns a company that sells stuff like that. However, you never heard about him harassing people or going on a racist rant. That is my point. No one is looking to Harrison for advice. Just like I’m not looking to Keanu for advice.
I’ll give you an example. Bill Murray was considered a great guy. Would randomly show up at people’s wedding when invited, still has a answering machine, and seemed like a real life goof ball. Then the reports of his interaction with Lucy Liu came out. Then reports of him abusing people on set. His image is one of an abusive asshole on set.
If you tell me you get your political views or any advice from him, I would laugh in your face. Not bc of everything I just said but bc he doesn’t seem like a smart person. He seems like the class clown that smokes to much weed.
Obviously Hancock is a crackpot but saying that he offends other people with equally falsified theories is not exactly strong criticism…
How about this, then?
IMO that’s basically white supremacy. The most generous possible thing you could say is that Hancock is too stupid to recognize racist bullshit when he sees it in terms of things like Quetzalcoatl being a white man (utter bullshit) but I don’t think he’s that stupid.
Wait, you think Hancock came up with Quetzalcoatl being a white bearded man? XD
No. I think he perpetuates that racism.
Here is Quetzalcoatl (and not in his usual winged serpent form) from the pre-Spanish Maya. Does he look like a white man to you or a local indigenous person? Don’t you think if Hancock didn’t want to just perpetuate racist bullshit he could have just looked that up himself, what with being a journalist and all?
But that’s just one image, right? And no color! I’m sure after the Spanish came and had them draw him…
Oh.
I thought journalists were supposed to do research.
Of course, if you’re a journalist who wishes to perpetuate racism…
Hancock is a con man plain and simple but what part of that makes this more acceptable?
The fact that it’s an indigenous folk belief and not just some crazy guy’s white savior ideas?
So it’s bullshit, which granted it is pretty harmless, but it’s still bullshit when discussing the origins of people.
It doesn’t deserve to be repeated in an article about someone denying science. That claim also denies science (and common sense).
The bigger issue is Hancock’s idea of indigenous people worshiping a white savior. Check out the excerpts from his book I pasted.
I like how you continue to dodge the fact the indigenous peoples claims they come from a fucking rock is ridiculous when I have already agreed that Hancock is a con man.
He’s a bigot for having his own Lil theory about settlers from 12,000 years ago?
Nobody knows what’s going in inside that melon except him, but it really does reek of the old mindset of colonials “discovering” lands where people had been living already for millennia, and assuming they’re too dumb to be worth considering. Or even making a spectacle of them like they’re some sort of animal.
Even if it’s not intentionally malicious, that sort of disregard has some amount of bigotry attached.
There were colonials 12,000 years ago?
Please read the excerpts from his book I pasted below. He thinks indigenous Americans worshiped white saviors.
According to the first video made by the youtuber dogpack404, he had been doing bad things from the begging
steve wozniak 🤣
Yo what’s wrong with the Woz?