Context:

I’m currently running Debian 12.7 on VirtualBox, trying out linux before I become experienced enough to fully switch my drive to linux. I have an i5 cpu and an amd radeon gpu on my laptop. I run kde-plasma with wayland.

I have sorted out some basic stuff, but my current problem is how to play the few games I have on linux (“Counter-strike 1.6”, “Hades I”, “MGR: Revengeance”, “Minecraft” (t-launcher) and “Outer-Wilds”). I want ro move their game data too, but I think that’s a simple copy paste on the appropriate paths. I also want to run a few other programs, possibly Notepad++ and mp3tag, but I think I can figure those if I fugre the games.

I know about the existance of Wine, Winetricks (though not very good at using it), Proton, Lutris, Bottles and Heroic (and PlayOnLinux which I haven’t installed).

I have installed Lutris (flatpak), Bottles (flatpak) and Heroic (Appimage).

I have successfully manually installed Notepad++ in Bottles using soda-9.0.1 and semi-successfully manually installed Counter-strike 1.6 on Lutris using wine-ge-8-26-x86_64. The issues with that (among others?) is that I cant look around with the mouse and there is no audio. Apparently some dependencies are missing.


So, this comes to my question:

How do I figure what dependencies to use on my wineprefixes?

Lutris, bottles and heroic theoritically allow you to edit the dependencies, in case something goes wrong. Lutris also is supposed to have some installation scripts on their database.

Is there any way I can find any configuration in text form? How can I then use this text to pick the dependencies myself?

I’m thinking of a list with the recommended changes:

Counter-strike 1.6 installation script:

Install Windows fonts

Install cmd

Install vcrun2013

Do X changes on registry

etc.

Is there such a thing? Is there any other way to figure this out (other than painfully and randomly trying setup combinations)?

  • Noxious@fedia.io
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    17 days ago

    I recommend using PollyMC, if you want to play Minecraft for free. It’s based on the awesome Prism Launcher, is completely open source, and has more features than the official launcher or TLauncher.

    If you want something that’s basically the exact same thing as Notepad++, check out Notepad Next. If you want something similar, try Notepadqq, and if you want something better, use Kate. It’s developed by the KDE Project btw, and fits in well with the rest of your Plasma desktop experience.

    I have installed Lutris (flatpak), Bottles (flatpak) and Heroic (Appimage).

    Why did you install Heroic as an AppImage? Just go with the Flatpak, which is more convenient, because you can easily update it from Discover.
    https://flathub.org/apps/com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl

    I also recommend installing ProtonUp-Qt btw, it’s an easy to use graphical tool that lets you manage multiple versions of Proton. Once you have it installed, use it to download the latest version of Proton-GE-custom. It has better performance and compatibility with many games.

    When actually installing Linux onto your machine, I would reconsider your choice of distribution though. Debian isn’t bad, but there are better, easier, more user-friendly distros for gaming. One example of this is Bazzite. It’s pretty similar to Steam OS, and you can’t really break it.

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      17 days ago

      you’re overcomplicating it. get a separate $20 SSD and install the OS to it, dicking around with wine and tools within virtualbox is a headache you don’t need. set it up as desired (I recommend using flatpak versions of lutris and friends because of freshness) and then install the games one by one, followed by transferring the game data/settings/etc. you can experiment to your heart’s desire because you always have the fallback solution of your original drive.

      then, when you know what’s what and where’s what you can make the transition. good luck!

      • Blastboom Strice@mander.xyzOP
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        17 days ago

        I think this is supposed to be a reply to me, so I’ll respond🙃

        Yep, I think you’re right, I’m currently flashibg the debian installer on a usb card which I’ll use to install debian on an external ssd I found. Vbox is too slow for my needs now.

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          Mind if I ask why you’re sticking with Debian for gaming? Debian’s awesome for servers because you want the stability; but for gaming, you generally want nice fresh packages, updated drivers, etc etc. I’d use Bazzite or Nobara – the former if you’re comfortable with immutable/atomic paradigm, the latter if not.

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            16 days ago

            Well, as I said to someone else, while indeed debian probably is a bad choice for gaming, I barely game and the windows games I have are kinda old (Hades I is probably the most recent). I just casually play cs 1.6 or Supertuxkart every now and then :)

            Maybe in the future I could experiment with the other distros, thanks for the suggestions.

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    Debian is not great for gaming. At least not if you have somewhat current hardware. Other distributions have much more up to date drivers and software.

    And in my experience getting a game to run in a virtual machine is much harder than on bare metal.

    That said, to answer your questions, you can find Lutris’ install scripts on lutris.net. ie https://lutris.net/games/outer-wilds/. You can select to view the scripts. For dependencies you’re looking for the task with the name winetricks.

    - task:
        app: arial vcrun2019 d3dcompiler_43 d3dcompiler_47 d3dx9 win7
        arch: win64
        description: Installing dependencies
        name: winetricks
        prefix: $GAMEDIR
    

    There after app you find all the dependencies it installs.

    You can also search for the games on https://protondb.com it will show you reports by users on how a game runs and what configuration changes they had to make to get a game running. It’s Steam-centric so you will only get games that are on Steam and on Steam most stuff is automated so you won’t always see the dependencies needed as Steam has already installed them. https://www.protondb.com/app/753640?device=any

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      17 days ago

      You’re right about debian, but I’m barely playing games and as you can see my games are kinda old anyways, so I might stay on debian.

      Thank you for actually explaining the scripts section :))

      I just download all the stuff on the app section and do any other changes other tasks require (like registry edits), right?

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    15 days ago

    Piggybacking on this, I tried Fitgirl repack releases and some of them hang up during install when executed through wine or proton. I resorted to installing them from a windows boot and then execute them from linux, but does anyone have a better solution?

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    T launcher working fine under linux since it java just find and download it as .jar file But i also recommend higly recommend
    https://llaun.ch/en it was original tlauncher laucher, more details https://telegra.ph/The-True-Story-of-TL-05-21 Developer even publishing source code of his laucher. But u need to download from ukrainian,russja,belarusia or other countries cause for most europe couries it gonna show DCMA banner from mojang,in other case it will load all files

    U don’t need windows version of cs 1.6.Valve ported all cs to linux,so so find native 1.6 version https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5735662

    Also recommens u to try project portproton for launching games,most of my games works with 2 clicks https://github.com/Castro-Fidel/PortWINE

    If u get used to notepad++ very much u can use reimplementation of it which cross platform https://github.com/dail8859/NotepadNext

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      17 days ago

      Thank you for all of the detailed resources with appropriate links! Thank you thank you

      (And I really wanted to escape notepad++, because it’s not native.)

  • J'Pol @lemmy.sdf.org
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    17 days ago

    AT Launcher for Minecraft has a native Linux package. I know that isn’t the particular launcher you asked for, but it works great.