Apologies if this is the wrong place for this. A few subs opened up and were discussing the possibility of extending the blackouts. The majority wanted the blackout to end to keep the influx of content. That was to be expected.

There was a disturbing tone in some of the messages though. It was a form of cynicism essentially backing Reddit to do whatever it wanted to the devs, and that it was wrong to protest the rule changes as we should be okay with whatever Reddit wanted. It was almost like learned helplessness. I genuinely found it to be disturbing. Is anyone else noticing this in their communities/subs?

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    Keep 2 things in mind

    /r/conservative assholes are running amuck across all of reddit at the moment.

    And, Reddit has been known to astroturf comments in the past and I 100% guarantee that they are probably working on that to some extent right now.

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      Why would /r/conservative support killing third-party apps though? I don’t really see the connection.

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        If people generally to the left support something they automatically oppose it, and a lot of the big leftist and liberal sites were the first ones on this blackout train.

        Like this isn’t being mean, they’ll admit they do that. They’re proud of it.

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          I lean to the right in my political views yet I do not exhibit any of the behaviors that you are subscribing to an entire population. Consider being more exact with your words lest you alienate people with vitriol.

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            You’re right, right wing politics is primarily propagated by the desire to be evil.

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          Yeah, I guess they just want to “pwn the libs” by being made to use the awful first party app and have all the adverts etc.

          I think the decentralised nature of lemmy, kbin etc. is much more in line with the libertarian ideals that some of the right have though.

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            What you’re realising here is right wing libertarianism isn’t real, it’s an excuse to allow people to do horrible things to eachother. They’re still very happy to ban things they don’t like.

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              I mean it’s also /r/conservative not /r/libertarian or whatever. So I wouldn’t necessarily expect them to hold those libertarian values in any case.

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                Yeah, but take a look in any thread and they’re 24/7 jerking off about how they’re freedom lovers or whatever.

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                  Yeah, it’s not really a coherent worldview. I don’t entirely agree with libertarianism but at least it’s much more coherent. They aren’t like all for freedom, but then against gay rights or whatever.

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          They view protesters against suthoritarian moves as whiny liberals, so they will always take the opposite position - and like it.

          They see “take charge” and “fuck you” activities as real turn one, they don’t even stop to assess what is happening. They get raging boners over it.

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          That’s kinda true. Then again, consider the history of any right-leaning sub or sub that makes fun of the left: Admins force unwanted mods into their subs. New accounts make “threatening” posts faster than mods can stomp them out, and get screenshots to other subs as proof the whole sub is terrible. T_D banned fir a post arguably advocating for violence against police… a few weeks before BLM kicked off, and every left sub was loaded with advocations for violence towards cops. Cringeanarchy got flooded with CP posts from AgainstHateSubs alt accounts and promptly shut down. (Cite: https://youtu.be/yUV9TyfYaEQ ) All this was, overtly or covertly, supported by reddit’s admins.

          Now, if you’re still a r/conservative mod on Reddit after ALL THAT… you’re controlled opposition installed by reddit admins, or you want to a reddit mod so bad, you’ll compromise your values for it.

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              AHS was definitely doing this, and there were several examples of admins being in close communication with AHS leaders, including some leaked chat logs (which arent totally verifiable but are pretty consistent). If nothing else, the fact that reddit admins had their eyes on “bad” posts in right-leaning subs faster than mods could, and yet also would ignore similar posts in lefty or “neutral” subs like r/politics that don’t allow any remotely right wing opinions, was very observable to anybody in an effected sub.

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        I haven’t been on Reddit to see for myself however I believe I heard someone on Lemmy say that /r/conservative was making a big deal about NOT blacking out? I have no context and no clue why I just know I’ve heard people say that.